TOP 10 list of Best and Worst HMI & SCADA

  • Thread starter Luciano Dell'Orfano - RTS Argentina
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I think the worst is ABB COMPACT HMI. When you are In development stage It is very slow, Tag Generation do not work properly, backup system does not work, OPC connection is very slow, in conclusion I hope not to use it again.
 
I have worked with a number of HMI packages over the years and my list would be (from worst to best)

Worst
1. Intellution Ifix - Absoutle crap. A nightmare
2. RSView SE/ME 3.0 - A complete disaster
3. Lookout Direct - Functions but what were they thinking???

Best
1. Wonderware Intouch - Powerful and easy to use
2. Cimplicity - Powerful

I have found that I could create anything imaginable with Intouch. These folks know what they are doing. Ive heard Citech is pretty good too but my experience was not great.
 
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> I think the worst is ABB COMPACT HMI. When you are In development stage It is very slow, Tag Generation do not work
> properly, backup system does not work, OPC connection is very slow, in conclusion I hope not to use it again.

You can check with your system, it must have 4 GB or more RAM if not available try to increase your virtual memory you can allocate same up to 10 GB.

I am sure it will work fine, also please check and confirm u r using workstation grade PC??

New version of CHMI is already launched and we have execute almore 5 Project for System with around 800 to 1000 I/O and its working fantastic.

If any help require you may contact us.
 
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Scott Hamilton

Interesting blog - From my 30+ years of experience and perspective all of the Master-slave systems which require point definitions and dedicated operator stations are really old school. Sure the good ones "work" but where is the mobile support, the tablet support, the "no software required app" we all see today on our phones. For me all the praised and cussed are "stuck" in the past - the way-back past.

I recommend checking out http://scadanexus.com.
This is a very advanced system that is Client-Server based and only needs a web browser. works with every phone, tablet, iPad, iPhone, Droid I try. Simple to setup - no software - quite cool.
 
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Rafael Becerra

Actually I think all the opposite:

Worst:
1. Usdata Factory Link
2. Wonderware Intouch (up to v.10) (it's ok if you love old-fashioned win95 buttons and interface).

Best:
1. Proficy iFix (3.0 and above, you can automate almost everything with VBA, and let the code work for you)
2. FactoryTalk View SE
 
> but where is the mobile support, the tablet support, the "no software required app" we all see
> today on our phones. For me all the praised and cussed are "stuck" in the past - the way-back past.

I recommend checking our Android app from
http://tinyurl.com/kwago2o

It is client/server and the visualizations are defined within the server.

PS: It is based on Qt and Digia now starts to support iOS also.
 
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Curt Wuollet

I've sharpened a quill, take pen in hand and will send this by telegraph to say that, yes, automation in general is a bit behind the times. On one hand, it makes it easy to be a futurist and predict that open solutions will greatly benefit automation. On the other hand, it makes it somewhat unlikely that I will live long enough to see the predictions come true. :^)

Regards
cww
 
"On one hand, it makes it easy to be a futurist and predict that open solutions will greatly benefit automation. On the other hand, it makes it somewhat unlikely that I will live long enough to see the predictions come true. :^"

The problem with "open" systems, particularly those with relational databases as their core engine, is that database callups are slow. For realtime they can be horsepowered up. For responsive trends and historical queries, they suffer. For maximum uptime and reliability, they are also not up the standards set decades ago.
 
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Curt Wuollet

I'd be interested in where you get that information with most computing performance records being held by OSS these days. Including 95% of the worlds fastest supercomputers. I'm sure IBM would like to know also as their newest products run OSS. Relational is too slow some places but the viable alternatives are mostly OSS as well. And the reliability and uptime notion is just silly. I was there decades ago.

Regards
cww
 
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James Ingraham

"The problem with 'open' systems, particularly those with relational databases as their core engine, is that database callups are slow."

How does relational database callups being slow relate to 'open' systems? I think it's fair to say that simply switching from MySQL to Oracle or MS SQL Server will not inherently get you a particular speed bump. There are probably some proprietary systems that make acceptable trade-offs for speed. TimesTen, eXtremeDB, Empress, or Caché perhaps. There are also open source options. H2, VoltDB, EJDB, Redis, memcached...

I don't get your point at all. Are databases the problem? In which case, how is proprietary any better? If 'open' is the problem, what do databases have to do with it?

-James Ingraham
Sage Automation, Inc.
 
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Nathan Boeger

I disagree.

How do you figure that database queries are slow from relational databases? Older HMI systems used flat text files (really bad) or poor local engines such as a local MS Access instance. Even proprietary systems use a similar database - they just hide it from you. How is this any better than an open system that uses a modern RDBMS?

What standards "set up a decade ago" are more reliable?

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Nathan Boeger, CISSP-ISSAP, CCNP, MCSE
"Design Simplicity Cures Engineered Complexity"
http://notanotherindustrialblog.blogspot.com
 
the best scada are

powerlink of GE cimplicity

and copa data of zenon

i work with all other it's not stable

but those it's ok until now
 
I had a great experiences with Pulse SCADA, manufactured by the israelian company Afcon.

It is a very easy software to use, it is not expensive, and doing that the company is not so big than Siemens, Schneider, ABB, etc, the support and the response times is very good.

You can see the features in their web page:

www.afcon-inc.com
 
WinTr is advanced SCADA SOFTWARE for monitoring and saving data of manufacturing processes which separated large areas. Devices managed from single station and they can be connected with OPC Client, S7 MPI, S7 PPI, Profinet (S7 1200), Modbus RTU, Modbus TCP/IP, Host-Link protocols (Omron), Mewtocol protocols (Panasonic). Our SCADA SYSTEMS Historical data related to processes are saved into database. www.scadasoftware.net
 
> I have worked with a number of HMI packages over the years and my list would be (from worst to best)

> 2. RSView SE/ME 3.0 - A complete disaster

You posted this in April of 2012?

RSView/FTView is at 6.0. If you're still using version 3.0 what do you expect??
 
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Devin Montcrief

> WinTr is advanced SCADA SOFTWARE for monitoring and saving data of manufacturing processes which separated large areas.

It is a one man operation and they have yet to deliver on any promised hardware.
Technical support will be difficult by the looks of their web page.
 
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Dave Richardson

I think it means he learned fast and got out - while they have fixed some of the worst problems with it, FTView is still a one-way trip into costly, constant upgrades. Better to have gotten out quick.

>> I have worked with a number of HMI packages over the years and my list would be (from worst to best)

>> 2. RSView SE/ME 3.0 - A complete disaster

> You posted this in April of 2012?

> RSView/FTView is at 6.0. If you're still using version 3.0 what do you expect?
 
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